This supper was with two men who have maybe a little but probably no affinity with designers. Jeroen Laven (planner and director Stipo) and Eric van Keulen (business & commercial director De Zwarte Hond) have much to do with architects and urban designers, but they daily are surprised about them.

It was certainly not a peeling evening. They explain that creativity and naivety perhaps leads to great designs, but mostly not to a good business model for users and owners. Architecture and urbanism cannot without economy. Designers should delve into business models to be taken seriously again. This knowledge might be rescued their own business also.

Often eaten at Huson. I can not say every time that it was good. Next month we have to visit another restaurant.

Daan Bakker (Daf-architecten), Jeroen de Willigen (DeZwarteHond), Jasper de Haan (architect) and I invite each month a number of colleagues to eat, drink and discuss about our profession, the city of Rotterdam and related matters.